I just thought that Pat Garza saying Ted Jarasc of the Governing Body over Jehovah's Witnesses is guilty of child molestation could have caused a lot of people to quit, but the U.N. liason for 10 years, the overall pedophilia coverup as revealed on Dateline NBC etc could also do it. There's no reason to doubt that.
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APOSTACY IS WORKING
by hamptonite21 intwo weeks ago all sunday meetings were cancelled in the shirley area here on longisland ny.
a elder meeting was held with the co. my aunt a jdub has informed me that all 4 congregations have had over 7 disfellowshippings in the past month and about 2 dozen since the beginning of the year.
it seems that many of the youth are having sex and allowed to do what ever they want.
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APOSTACY IS WORKING
by hamptonite21 intwo weeks ago all sunday meetings were cancelled in the shirley area here on longisland ny.
a elder meeting was held with the co. my aunt a jdub has informed me that all 4 congregations have had over 7 disfellowshippings in the past month and about 2 dozen since the beginning of the year.
it seems that many of the youth are having sex and allowed to do what ever they want.
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nancee park
Do you suppose they heard Pat Garza says Ted Jarasc of the Governing Body molested her when he was a District Overseer in Los Angeles?
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The Loving Elders
by MoeJoJoJo inthis is what has been happening with us lately.
we (my husband and i) have not been to any meetings in over a year.
the elders have stopped by quite often (once they stopped by and they were here from 10:30 12:00, they left the others in their car group, out in the car the whole time!!
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nancee park
God has always used an organization that's in heaven! None on earth have ever been perfect.
An organization led by pedophile-lovers and pedophiles etc is not of Jehovah God!
Even when a human organization was active in worship it was a confederation of 12 tribes in Israel's case (independent but cooperative) and a confederation of independent but cooperative house-churches/congregations for earliest Christianity.
Watchtower as with Rome is a top-down structure; earliest Christianity and most Protestant churches have used a down-upwards structure to permit maximum Christian freedom as granted at Romans 14:6.
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Only way to take down the tower.....
by IslandWoman inis to act together as a united group.
i know to many of us that smacks of jwism but it's not really, it's just common sense.. take for example the colonial world in north america prior to the revolution.
there were thirteen colonies, each with their own problems, their own goals and needs.
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nancee park
The Free Christians movement is diverse but united by friendly actions on issues of mutual concern. No one monopolizes it. The Free Christians newsletter is for those of differing views many of whom are exJWs and other friends, this freedom granted at Romans 14:6. More unity of action within the community is welcome.
Let us know what you'd like done and it can be put in the newsletter going directly to about 750 emails some of whom forward and distribute copies, and also gets posted with other egroups totally several thousand additional persons some of whom also share copies. Many use it as just a news service, others as a source for friendship, and still others as a source for spiritual encouragement.
Yes, a formal organizing effort by others utilizing press releases etc however you deem best would also be welcomed, although new Bible Groups (congregations) formed by those organizing are, in our opinion, best given great if not full local autonomy to prevent development of new mini-Watchtower cults. Our own branch within the movement is and will stay "underground" to assure survival, but a group openly organizing could do lots more things that we can not. Cooperation is thus mutually beneficial.
All things to all! [email protected] , [email protected]
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Mixed Reaction to 'Frozen Egg ' Baby
by Kenneson inhttp://www/cnsnews.com
scroll down.
it's about the 19th heading.
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nancee park
"ICE-BABY" OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESS PARENTS IN UK:
http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200national/page.cfm?objectid=12273736&method=full&siteid=50081
Would any of the Gov Body members including Ted Jarasc care to issue a statement about the child?
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Celebrety Witness Dies
by ChuckD inmy apologies if this was already posted.
los angeles (ap) - actress teresa graves, who starred as a sassy undercover cop in the 1970s television police drama "get christie love!
", died thursday in a fire at her home.
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nancee park
Was she aware of the pedophilia coverup or going to go public about it?
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The Inner Circle Phenomena
by metatron insometimes, a defector may not be able to substantiate.
accusations gathered from other sources.
us to wonder about the credibility of the person who.
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nancee park
Although there are good, bored and boring elders, there are also those who are criminals due to hiding or doing pedophilia, the invasion of privacy and etc and go to criminal lengths to hide their evils and those abetted by Watchtower policies. The percentage of the darkness masked as "refining, disciplining in righteousness" has increased especially since the failed kingdom or New World Order prediction for 70 to 80 years after 1914 which means 1914 + 80 = 1994.
They brought in a "kingdom" of cultism in which all too many of those "princes among men" (District, Circuit and local elder overseers and their cronies) have lorded it over the unsuspecting rank-and-file JWs who do not know about Watchtower's 10 year secret U.N. liason as a Non-Governmental Organization, the growth in pedophilia, the recent publicly spoken allegation of child molestation regarding Ted Jarasc of Watchtower Gov Body by Pat Garza, the documentation (see "Search" here above) of pedophilia and coverup by former Gov Body member Leo Greenlees (never disfellowship).
Some kingdom....
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Teresa Graves dead
by JWinSF ini just read in the 10/11/2002 edition of the san francisco examiner that teresa graves died in a fire at her home in la.
she was 54. for those too young to remember, she was a fabulous comedienne on rowan & martin's laugh-in tv show [that also featured goldie hawn, ruth buzzi, lily tomlin, arte johnson, and many other great talents].
she also did a few movies, the last in 1974. that's about the time that she gave it all up to become a jw.. john w wirtanen
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nancee park
What or who do the police belive caused the fire? Was she still a JW? About to speak out about the child molestation thing? In short, any details?
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Christmas Aint Jesus's Birthday
by comforter injesus was not born on december 25. that is not his birthday.
why is this day observed as jesus's birthday?
because some christians thought it was fine to mingle christianity with paganism.
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nancee park
The Watchtower says Christ was likely born about October 2, so why ignore counting back 9 months for normal conception or genetic-level birth means he was born in late December? Why insist Christmas is from the pagan Saturnalia when John 10:22-3 says Christ also celebrated the Festival of Dedication or Lights, more often called Hannukah, which first began December 25 but has varied since because lunar-based? Job 1:3, 3:1-3 show Job's kids celebrated birthdays if you read all 3 verses to see day of birth is meant. At Luke 2 angels themselves celebrated Christ's birth. Santa is from Saint Nicholas, an actual red-robed Christian gift-giving elder of the Middle Ages, not a wizard or pagan god. The word Easter may as easily be from the Anglo-Saxon word eastern (Christianity came from East of England) as from the goddess Eastre, the eggs as likely from the Jewish passover egg as from paganry, common sense saying early Christians more likely
using eggs and rabbits to symbolize the hope for new life by resurrection than as vesiges of pagan fertility or sex rites! Halloween came from All Hallows (Holy Ones/Saints) Evening when parents had children dress as saints to encourage them to be good, the normally harmless pranks coming from Ireland where maybe or maybe not taken from pagans even as wedding rings, names of days, months, some Christian names in the Bible like Apollos and Jason also came from pagans. Why does Watchtower call compromises holidays that attacked and replaced paganisms especially since Colossians 2:16 says let none judge you about a holiday or Sabbaths? Watchtower calls a cross a repugnant murder weapon but Paul said boast in it as a symbol of resurrection over death. (Ga 6:14, 1Cor 1:17-18) They say it was a stake but human remains and inscriptions show archaeologists the stauros was a cross not stake, Dr F Zugibe's research shows suffocation would be in minutes if on a stake but in hours if on outstretched cross per Luke 23:44 and Matthew 27:45-6, and the word stauros can mean not just stake but cross. -
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JW in England Accused of Abuse
by Kenneson in"man denies sex attack on girl.
a woman who claimed she was indecently assaulted more than 20 years ago by a senior member of the jehovah's witness congregation in ipswich has described how he removed her socks and sucked her toes.".
http://www.eveningstar.co.uk/contents/news/news_home.asp.
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nancee park
What's wrong is Watchtower World. Their world make normal what is abnormal, and abnormal what is normal.